Former hostage negotiator, Cathy MacDonald, joins me this week from The Art Of Communication. Cathy brings her extensive and unique professional background into the field of helping others communicate better and more effectively. In this episode, Cathy and I delve into the sensitive and frequently challenging conversations we need to have with our friends and family as it relates to our goals. Since many people struggle with having health goals that do not coincide with the goals of those around us, Cathy provides some incredible insight to help navigate those conversations. To learn more about Cathy’s work, visit www.artofcommunication.co.uk Per our conversation on the episode, the slides she referenced can be found at https://bit.ly/2AQzumj To learn more about your host, check out www.jasonleenaarts.com and www.revfittherapy.com You can also like our Facebook page at www.facebook.com/revolutionaryou Download, subscribe, share with your friends and please take a moment to leave us an iTunes review.